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Babasaheb Dr. B.R. Ambedkar (14th April 1891 - 6th December 1956)

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DR. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Volume No. : 2 First Edition Compiled and Edited by VASANT MOON

Second Edition Edited by HARI NARKE Dr. Ambedkar Foundation Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment Govt. of India

Volume No. : 2 First Edition: Education Department, Govt. of Maharashtra: 14 April, 1979 First Re-Printed by Dr. Ambedkar Foundation: Jan, 2014 Second Re- Printed by Dr. Ambedkar Foundation: August, 2019 Third Re-Printed by Dr. Ambedkar Foundation: August, 2020 ISBN: 978-93-5109-173-8 Cover Design: Dr. Debendra Prasad Majhi, Ph.D.

Monogram used on the Cover page is taken from Babasaheb Dr. Ambedkar’s Letterhead.

© Courtesy: Secretary, Education Department, Government of Maharashtra. ISBN (Set): 978-93-5109-171-4 Discounted Price: One Set of 1 to 17 Volumes (20 Books): Rs. 2250/- Discount Policy Annexed.

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Collected Works of Babasaheb Dr. Ambedkar (CWBA) Counselling and Collaboration Dr. Thaawarchand Gehlot Minister for Social Justice & Empowerment, Govt. of India and Chairperson, Dr. Ambedkar Foundation Shri Ramdas Athawale Minister of State for Social Justice & Empowerment, Govt. of India Shri Krishan Pal Gurjar Minister of State for Social Justice & Empowerment, Govt. of India Shri Rattan Lal Kataria Minister of State for Social Justice & Empowerment, Govt. of India Shri R. Subrahmanyam Secretary, Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment, Govt. of India Ms. Upma Srivastava Addl. Secretary and Member Secretary, Dr. Ambedkar Foundation, Govt. of India Dr. Debendra Prasad Majhi, Ph.D.

Director, Dr. Ambedkar Foundation, Govt. of India Dr. Brijesh Kumar Co-ordinator (CWBA), Dr. Ambedkar Foundation

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The Complete Sets of Collected Works of Babasaheb Dr. Ambedkar, popularly known as CWBA / lEiw.kZ ok³~e;] in Hindi and English, being released by Dr. Thaawarchand Gehlot, Hon’ble Minister of Social Justice & Empowerment, Government of India and Chairman, Dr. Ambedkar Foundation at New Delhi. Dr. Debendra Prasad Majhi, Director of the Foundation and Sh. Surendra Singh, Member Secretary were also present on the occasion. The V olumes in Hindi (V ol. 22 to V ol. 40) have been published for the first time in 2019. CWBA VOLUMES RELEASE

PREFACE

Babasaheb Dr. B.R. Ambedkar was an erudite personality, a symbol of knowledge and a great son of India. He was a public intellectual, social revolutionary and a prolific communicator. He has left behind thought provoking writings and speeches bearing interdisciplinary perspectives, with insightful analysis of sociopolitical situations which evoke intellectual reasons and emotions. His writings are having profound sense of justice manifested in emancipation of marginalized masses. He not only dedicated his life for ameliorating the conditions of deprived sections of the society, but his views on inclusiveness and “Samajik Samrasta” continue inspiring national endeavor. It is expected that these V olumes may provide contemporary relevance of his thought and open up the possibilities of rethinking Dr. Ambedkar in the present day context.

The mandate of Dr. Ambedkar Foundation, inter-alia, include implementation of programmes and furthering the ideology and message of Babasaheb Dr. Ambedkar among the masses in India as well as abroad. It is a matter of great happiness that consequent upon a decision by the Governing Body of the Foundation Chaired by Hon’ble Minister of Social Justice and Empowerment, the Foundation is getting the third edition of Collected Works of Babasaheb Ambedkar (CWBA) V olumes, reprinted on popular demand of the readers. It is informed for the benefit of all concerned that the Foundation always endeavors to make the V olumes available to the readers at an affordable price, and accordingly, it has also been decided to continue with the discount policy as per the past practices on Sale of V olumes. The discount policy of the Foundation has been annexed with each V olume. It is hoped that the V olumes will continue to be source of inspirations for the readers.

15, Janpath, (Dr. Debendra Prasad Majhi)

New Delhi

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An ideal society should be mobile, should be full of channels for conveying a change taking place in one part to other parts. In an ideal society there should be many interests consciously communicated and shared. There should be varied and free points of contact with other modes of association. In other words there should be social endosmosis. This is fraternity, which is only another name for democracy. Democracy is not merely a form of Government. It is primarily a mode of associated living, of conjoint communicated experience. It is essentially an attitude of respect and reverence towards fellowmen. - Dr. B. R. Ambedkar in ‘Annihilation of Caste’

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CONTENTS CONTENTS PAGES

FOREWORD . . . Chief Minister . . . VII PREFACE . . . Minister for Education . . . IX INTRODUCTION . . . Editor . . . XI FOR SECOND EDITION . . . Hari Narke—Member-Secretary XV PART I Dr. Ambedkar in the Bombay Legislature 1 On Budget : 1 . . . . . 24th February 1927 . . . 1 2 On Budget : 2 .. . . . . 21st February 1928 . . . 6 3 On Budget : 3 . . . . . . 2nd March 1938 . . . 9 4 On Budget : 4 . . . . . . 21st February 1939 . . . 21 5 On the Finance Act Amendment Bill . . . 28th August 1939 . . . 35 6 On Grants for Education . . . . . . 12th March 1927 . . . 39 7 On the Bombay University Act Amendment Bill: 1.

27th July 1927 . . . 45 8 On the Bombay University Act Amendment Bill : 2.

1st October 1927 . . . 54 9 On the Bombay University Act Amendment Bill : 3.

3rd October 1927 . . . 59 10 On the Bombay University Act Amendment Bill: 4.

5th October 1927 . . . 61 11 On the Bombay Primary Education Act Amendment Bill : 1.

21st April 1938 . . . 64 12 On the Bombay Primary Education Act Amendment Bill: 2.

30th April 1938 . . . 65 13 On the Bombay Primary Education Act Amendment Bill : 3.

30th April 1938 . . . 67 14 Bill No. XII of 1928 to amend the Bombay Hereditary Offices Act.

19th March 1928 . . . 72 15 On the Hereditary Offices Act Amendment Bill: 1.

3rd August 1928 . . . 75 16 On the Hereditary Offices Act Amendment Bill: 2.

4th August 1928 . . . 88 17 Bill No. XXIII of 1937 to amend the Bombay Hereditary Offices Act.

17th September 1937 . . . 90 18 On the Hereditary Offices Act Amedment Bill No. XXIII of 1937.

17th September 1937 . . . 94 19 Bill No. XX of 1937 to abolish the Khoti System.

. . . 17th September 1937 . . . 96 20 On a Bill to abolish the Khoti System . . . 17th September 1937 . . . 101 21 On Village Panchayats Bill: 1 . . . 6th October 1932 . . . 104 22 On Village Panchayats Bill : 2 . . . 10th February 1933 . . . 113 23 On Village Panchayats Bill : 3 . . . 13th February 1933 . . . 118 24 On Village Panchayats Bill : 4 . . . 24th March 1933 . . . 121 25 On Local Boards Act Amendment Bill : 1 . . . 18th January 1938 . . . 123 26 On Local Boards Act Amendment Bill : 2 . . . 22nd January 1938 . . . 126 27 On Small Holders’ Relief Bill : 1 . . . 10th October 1927 . . . 129 28 On Small Holders’ Relief Bill : 2 (Minute of dissent from the Report of the Select Committee).

. . . 30th June 1928 . . .

132 29 On Small Holder’s Relief Bill : 3 . . . 24th January 1938 . . . 135 30 On the Bombay Police Act Amendment Bill : 1 27th April 1938 . . . 138 31 On the Bombay Police Act Amendment Bill : 2 28th April 1938 . . . 148 32 On the Bombay Police Act Amendment Bill : 3 29th April 1938 . . . 154 33 On the City of Bombay Municipal Act Amendment Bill.

3rd May 1938 . . . 161 MESSAGE v PREFACE vii

xviii CONTENTS PAGES 34 On Prohibition . . . 10th March 1927 . . . 163 35 On Maternity Benefit Bill . . . 28th July 1928 . . . 166 36 On Punishment of Whipping . . . 18th February 1933 . . . 168 37 On Ministers’ Salaries Bill . . . 23rd August 1937 . . . 170 38 On Probation of Offenders Bill . . . 20th January J938 . . . 179 39 On Tobacco Duty Act Amendment Bill . . . 5th March 1938 . . . 181 40 On Independence of Judiciary . . . 7th March 1938 . . . 183 41 On Creation of a Separate Karnatak Province 4th April 1938 . . . 188 42 On the Assembly Procedure . . . 10th September 1938 . . . 197 43 On the Industrial Disputes Bill . . . 15th September 1938 . . . 201 44 On Disturbances Enquiry Committee’s Report 17th March 1939 . . . 233 45 On Participation in the War : 1 . . . 25th October 1939 . . . 238 46 On Participation in the War : 2 . . . 26th October 1939 . . . 242 47 On Participation in the War : 3 . . . 27th October 1939 . . . 261 APPENDICES I Speech by P. J. Roham on Birth-Control on behalf of Dr. Ambedkar . . . 263 II Questions asked by Dr. Ambedkar and Replies given by the Government . . . 277 III Questionnaire of University Reforms Committee and Written Evidence by Dr. Ambedkar.

. . . 292 PART II Dr. Ambedkar with the Simon Commission (Indian Statutory Commission)

A. Report containing Views and Recommendations regarding changes in the Constitution of the Bombay Presidency– PREFACE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 315 SECTION I – Redistribution of the Area of the Province . . . . . . 316 SECTION II – Provincial Executive– Chapter 1 — Dual versus Unified Government . . . . . . 322 Chapter 2 — The Executive in Working . . . . . . 331 Chapter 3 — The Position and Powers of the Governor . . . 334 SECTION III – Provincial Legislature– Chapter 1— Franchise . . . . . . . . . . . . 337 Chapter 2 — Electorates . . . . . . . . . . . . 344 Chapter 3 — Distribution of Seats . . . . . . . . . 357 Chapter 4 — Lucknow Pact . . . . . . . . . 370 Chapter 5 — Second Chamber . . . . . . . . . 374 Chapter 6 — Powers of the Legislature . . . . . . . . . 377 SECTION IV – Provincial Autonomy– Chapter 1 — Provincial Government in relation to the . . . 382 Government of India.

Chapter 2 — Provincial Government in relation to the Crown. 386 SECTION V – Public Services . . . . . . . . . . . . 389 SECTION VI – Summary of Recommendations . . . . . . . . . 400 B. Statement concerning the State of education of the Depressed Classes in the Bombay Presidency on behalf of Bahishkrita Hitakarini Sabha to the Indian Statutory Commission (29th May 1928).

407 C. Statement concerning the safeguards for the protection of the interests of Depressed Classes as a minority on behalf of Bahishkrita Hitakarini Sabha, to the Indian Statutory Commission (29th May 1928). 429 D. Evidence of Dr. Ambedkar before the Indian Statutory Commission on 23rd October 1928.

xix CONTENTS PAGES E. Note submitted to the Indian Franchise Committee (Lothian Committee) on 1st May 1932.

491 PART III Dr. Ambedkar at the Round Table Conferences 1 In the Plenary Session — 5th sitting . . . . . . . . . 20-11-1930 503 2 Committee of the Whole Conference — Comments on the Interim Report of Sub-Committee No. I (Federal Structure). . . . . . . 16-12-1930 510 3 In Sub-Committee No. II (Provincial Constitution) — 1st sitting . . . . . . . . . 4-12-1930 512 3rd sitting . . . . . . . . . 8-12-1930 516 4th sitting . . . . . . . . . 9-12-1930 517 5th sitting . . . . . . . . . 15-12-1930 524 Committee of the Whole Conference— Comments on the Report of Sub-Committee No. II 16-12-1930 527 4 In Sub-Committee No. III (Minorities)— 2nd sitting . . . . . . . . . 31-12-1930 528 5th sitting . . . . . . . . . 14-1-1931 534 6th sitting . . . . . . . . . 16-1-1931 535 Appendix I—A scheme of political safeguards for the protection of the Depressed Classes in the furture constitution of a self-governing India— A memorandum by Dr. Ambedkar and Rao Bahadur R. Srinivasan.

Appendix to Sub-Committee’s Report 546 Appendix II—Relevant paragraphs of the Report of Sub-Committee No. III related to the Depressed Classes approved by the Committee of the Whole Conference.

19-1-1931 554 5 In Sub-Committee No. VI (Franchise)— 2nd sitting . . . . . . . . . 22-12-1930 557 3rd sitting . . . . . . . . . 30-12-1930 568 4th sitting . . . . . . . . . 1-1-1931 571 Committee of the Whole Conference— Summary of the Report of Sub-Commitee No. VI 16-1-1931 576 6 Committee of the Whole Conference— Comments on the Report of Sub-Committee No. VII 16-1-1931 579 (Defence).

7 In Sub-Committee No. VIII (Services)— 2nd sitting . . . . . . . . . 7-1-1931 581 3rd sitting . . . . . . . . . 8-1-1931 584 4th sitting . . . . . . . . . 9-1-1931 590 5th sitting . . . . . . . . . 12-1-1931 592 6th sitting . . . . . . . . . 13-1-1931 593 8 In the Plenary Session (General Review)— 8th sitting . . . . . . . . . 19-1-1930 596

xx CONTENTS 9 In the Federal Structure Committee— PAGES 23rd sitting . . . . . . . . . 16-9-1931 600 25th sitting . . . . . . . . . 18-9-1931 612 26th sitting . . . . . . . . . 21-9-1931 615 28th sitting . . . . . . . . . 23-9-1931 622 30th sitting . . . . . . . . . 25-9-1931 624 34th sitting . . . . . . . . . 14-10-1931 624 35th sitting . . . . . . . . . 15-10-1931 630 38th sitting . . . . . . . . . 22-10-1931 635 44th sitting . . . . . . . . . 2-11-1931 648 45th sitting . . . . . . . . . 4-11-1931 650 46th sitting . . . . . . . . . 16-11-1931 650 10 In the Minorities Committee— 7th sitting . . . . . . . . . 28-9-1931 652 8th sitting . . . . . . . . . 1-10-1931 654 9th sitting . . . . . . . . . 8-10-1931 659 Appendix I — Claims of Minority Communities— Joint Memorandum. 664 Appendix II — Supplementary Memorandum by Dr. Ambedkar and Rao Bahadur R. Srinivasan.

669 11 Evidence before Joint Committee on Indian Constitutional Reform— Witnesses examined by Dr. Ambedkar— (1) Sir Patrick James Fagan and others . . . . . . 13-6-1933 673 (2) Mr. Sachchidananda Sinha . . . . . . 22-6-1933 675 (3) Mir Maqbool Mahmood and others . . . . . . 27-6-1933 679 (4) Sir Michael O’dwyer . . . . . . 29-6-1933 685 (5) Mr. F. E. James and others . . . . . . 4-7-1933 688 (6) Sir John Perronet Thompson and others . . . 6-7-1933 690 (7) Sir Charles Innes . . . . . . 6-7-1933 691 (8) Sir Edward Benthall and others . . . . . . 13-7-1933 692 (9) Lady Layton and others . . . . . . 26-7-1933 696 (10) Rajkumari Amrit Kaur and Mrs. Hamid Ali . . . 29-7-1933 698 (11) Mrs. P. K. Sen and Mrs. L. Mukerji . . . . . . 29-7-1933 704 (12) Discussion on Poona Pact . . . . . . 31-7-1933 707 (13) Dr. B. S. Moonje and others . . . . . . 31-7-1933 714 (14) Mr. M. K. Acharya and others . . . . . . 2-8-1933 730 (15) Lieut. Col. C. E. Bruce and others . . . . . . 6-10-1933 736 (16) Wing Commander A. W. H. James and Dr. J. H. Hutton.

. . . . . . 16-10-1933 736 (17) Right Hon. Sir Winston Churchill . . . 24-10-1933 and 25-10-1933 742 (18) Lieut. Col. Sir Henry Gidney . . . . . . 10-11-1933 746 (19) Mr. J. C. French and Mr. S. H. Mills . . . . . . 13-11-1933 747 (20) Right Hon. Sir Samuel Hoare and others . . . . . . July, October and November 1933 748 INDEX . . . . . . . . . . . . 793 DISCOUNT POLICY ON SALE OF VOLUMES

PART I Dr. Ambedkar

in the Bombay Legislature

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