Section IV

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Now, I shall put the amendments of Dr. Ambadkar in Supplementary List No. 3. the question is: (For text of the motions see amendments Nos. 1 to 3, 5 to 11 and 16 to 19 in Supplementary List No. 3 as printed in Appendix XXXIII annexure 1).

The motion was adopted.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The other hon. Members desire to withdraw their amendments.

All the other amendments were, by leave, withdrawn. 12-00 Noon.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s Order regarding West Bengal stands modified to the extent of the amendments moved and accepted in the House.

HYDERABAD ORDER

Dr. Ambedkar: I am prepared to accept the following amendments.

Consolidated List. Amendment No. 1 parts 1 and 5 by Shri Ramachar others.

Amendment No. 2, parts 1 to 6, parts 10 to 12 and parts 15 and 16, by Shri Ramachar and others.

Amendment No. 3 parts 1 and 2 by Shri Ramachar and others. The motion was adopted.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s Order regarding Hyderabad stands modified to the extent of the amendments moved and accepted in the House. The other Members desire to withdraw their amendments.

All the other amendments were, by leave, withdrawn. MADHYA BHARAT ORDER Dr. Ambedkar: I accept amendments Nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9 and 11 in List No. 3 by Shri Radhelal Vyas. Also in List No. 1, Appendix I.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is:

[For text of the motions see Amendments Nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9 and 11 in List No. 3 printed in Appendix XXXIIII, annexure 2.]

The motions were adopted.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is :

[For text of the motion see List 1, Appendix I (as modified by the previous amendments in List No. 3 printed in Appendix XXXIII, annexures 1 and 2.)

The motion was adopted.

MYSORE ORDER

Dr. Ambedkar : I accept amendments Nos. 1 and 2 in List No. 1 by Shri Rudrappa.

Mr. Deputy Spaker: The question is:

[For text of the motion see Amendments Nos. 1 and 2 in List No. 1 printed in Appendix XXXIII, annexure 3.]. The motion was adopted.

Mr. Deputy speaker: All the other amendments are desired to be withdrawn.

The amendments were, by leave, withdrawn. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s Order regarding Mysore stands modified to the extent of these amendments now accepted.

Then the Punjab Order?

Dr. Ambedkar: No, Sir, The Punjab Order will have to be kept back for some time now. We may take up the P.E.P.S.U. Order.

P.E.P.S.U. ORDER

Dr. Ambedkar: I accept amendment I, parts 2 and 3 of Sardar Sochet Singh in the Consolidated List and also amendment No. 1 of Sardar Ranjit Singh as amended by amendments Nos. (i) and (ii) of Supplementary List No. 3 by Sardar Man.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Let us take them in order and finish first the Consolidated List.

Dr. Ambedkar: All right. I accept parts 2 and 3 of amendment No. 1 of Sardar Sochet Singh and others.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is:

[For text of the motion see Consolidated List, Amendment No 1, parts 2 and 3 printed in appendix XXXIII, Annexure I.]. The motion was adopted.

Dr. Ambedkar: I accept, in Supplementary List 2, amendment No. 1 of Sardar Ranjit Singh, as amended by amendment No. 1, parts (i) and (ii) in Supplementary List 3 by Sardar Man.

So the amendment in Supplementary List 3 may be put first.

The motion was adopted.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The President’s Order regarding P.E.P.S.U. stands modified to the extent of the amendments now adopted.

RAJASTHAN O RDER

Dr. Ambedkar: I accept amendment No. 1, parts 1 to 5 in the name of Shri R. C. Upadhyaya in Consolidated List as modified by amendment No. 1 of Shri Ghule in Supplementary List No. 4.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is. (For text of the motion, see Amendment No. 1 by Shri Ghule in S. L. No. 4).

The motion was adopted.

*Dr. Ambedkar: I accept the amendments in the name of Shri R. C. Upadhyaya and others, Parts 1 to 19 on pages 2 to 5 of C.L.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question is:

[For text of the motion see amendment 3, parts 1 to 19, C.L. printed in Appendix XXXIII, annexure 1.] The motion was adopted.

* P.D., Vol. 13, Part II, 9th June 1951, p. 10574.

Dr. Ambedkar: Amendment No. 1 of Supplementary List No. 2 and also No. 2 of S.L. No. 2, as modified by amendment No. 2 in Supplementary List No. 4, standing in my name may be accepted.

*Dr. Ambedkar: I accept amendments Nos. 1 to 3 of Supplmentary List No. 5 by Shri R. C. Upadhyaya. The motion was adopted.

The other amendments were, by leave of the House, withdrawn.

SAURASHTRA ORDER

Dr. Ambedkar: I accept amendments Nos. 1 and 2 of List No. 1 by Mr. C. C. Shah and Shri Hathi. Mr. Deputy Speaker: To the extent of these amendments the Saurashtra Order of the President stands modified. There is no other amendment.

Dr. Ambedkar: As regards the Travancore and Cochin Order there is no amendment. A corrigenda has been issued. Shri R. Velayudhan (Travancore-Cochin): There were some discrepancies in printing.

Shri Lakshmanan (Travancore-Cochin): They have all been covered by the corrigenda.

PART C STATES ORDER: DELHI

Dr. Ambedkar: I accept amendment No. 2 in consolidated List (in the name of Shri Kesava Rao and others). The motion was adopted.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: There are no other amendments, I suppose. The President’s Order relating to Part C States stands modified to the extent of the amendment just new carried. Other amendments by Dr. Ambedkar and others, if any, are to be withdrawn by the leave of the House. The other amendments were, by leave, withdrawn.

*P.D., Vol. 13, Part II, 8th June 1951, pp. 10597-607.

Dr. Ambedkar: Only two other provinces remain, namely U.P. and Punjab. Several amendments have come just now and I have not had time to apply mind to them. If the parties concerned are prepared to go by the original arrangements then I am prepared to proceed further. But I find that some changes have been introduced and I must have a clear understanding of what is sought to be done. I personally think that half an hour in the afternoon would be more than enough for both the Provinces.

Shri Shiv Charan Lai: There might be difficulty then with regard to the quorum, because Members of other States may be absent from the House.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Only two more orders relating to U.P. and the Punjab are outstanding. If there is unanimity in the House we can meet as late as possible, for I do not want to give the impression that I have muzzled them if anybody wants to speak.

Shri Amolakh Chand: Can we not adjourn for half an hour and then continue for the simple reason that at 4-30 p.m. Members may not come?

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The Minister must have sufficient time to consider the amendments.

Shri T. T. Krishnamachari (Madras): Is there no other business ?

Mr. Deputy Speaker: No other business except passing these two orders.

The House then adjourned till Half Past Four of the Clock. The House re-assembled at Half Past Four of the clock [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair ]

PUNJAB ORDER

Mr. Speaker: We will now proceed with the Punjab Order. May I know the Nos. of the agreed amendments ? I think we will follow the same procedure as in the morning.

Dr. Ambedkar: The agreed amendments are as follows : List 7.—Amendment No. 2, part 5, sub-part (i) and sub-part (ii) of Shri B. L. Sondhi, Chaudhari Ranbir Singh and others. List 9. —Amendment No. 6, parts 2 and 3, of Prof. Yashwant Rai.

List 10.—Only the first amendment in the list I move. I do not move the second and the third amendments as these are superseded by amendments Nos. 5(i) of List 7 and 3(6) of List 12.

List 12.—Amendment No. 1, parts 1 and 2, of Shri B. L. Sondhi, Ch. Ranbir Singh and others.

Amendment No. 2 of Sardar Bhopinder Singh Man and others, as modified by amendment in List No. 13, of Ch. Ranbir Singh and others.

Amendment No. 3, parts 4, 5 and 6 (second part) of Shri Sondhi, Ch. Ranbir Singh and others, with minor consequential changes in part 6 (second part) as follows:

6. That at page 6, in Table B.— Assembly Constituencies, for the entries ‘Ludhiana Sadar’, ‘Jagraon’ and ‘Raikot’ in column 1 and all the entries occurring against them in columns 2, 3 and 4, the following be substituted, namely:— 1 2 34 Jagraon … Jagraon Tehsil … … … 2 1 Ludhiana Sadar Nurpur Bet, Baddowal, Dhandra, Lalton, Kalan, Gill and Dhandari Kalan Zails of Ludhiana Sadar thana, and Shankar and Han Zails of Delhon thana and Dakha Zail of Dakha thana of Ludhiana Tehsil.

1… Delhon … Pakhowal and Andlu Zails of Raikot thana and Delhon thana (excluding Shankar and Hans Zails) of Ludhiana Tehsil.

1… Amendment No. 4, parts 1 and 2, of Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava and Chaudhari Ranbir Singh.

These are the amendments I am prepared to accept, Sir. Mr. Speaker : I take it no other hon. Member wishes me to put any of his motion to the House.

Well, then I shall dispose of these amendments first. The question is :

[For text of the motion see)

List 7—Amendment Nos 2, part, 5, sub-part (i) and sub-part (ii), of Shri B. L. Sondhi, Chaudhari Ranbir Singh and others. List 9—Amendment No. 6, parts 2 and 3, of Prof. Yashwant Rai. List 10— Only the first amendment in the list. List 12—Amendment No. 1, parts 1 and 2, of Shri B. L. Sondhi, Ch. . Ranbir Singh and others.

Amendment No. 2 of Sardar Bhopinder Singh Man and others, as modified by amendment in List No. 13, of Ch. Ranbir Singh and others.

Amendment No. 3, parts 4, 5 and 6 (second part) of Shri Sondhi and others, with minor consequential changes in part 6 (second part) as follows:

6. At page 6, in Table B.—Assembly Constituencies, for the entries ‘ Ludhiana Sadar ’, ‘Jagraon’ and ‘Raikot’ in column 1, and all the entries occurring against them in columns 2, 3 and 4, substitute the 7following :— 1 2 34 Jagraon … Jagraon Tehsil … … … 2 1 Ludhiana Sadar Nurpur Bet, Baddowal, Dhandra, Lalton, Kalan, Gill and Dhandari Kalan Zails of Ludhiana Sadar thana, and Shankar and Han Zails of Delhon thana and Dakha Zail of Dakha thana of Ludhiana Tehsil.

1… Delhon … Pakhowal and Andlu Zails of Raikot thana and Delhon thana (excluding Shankar and Hans Zails) of Ludhiana Tehsil.

1… printed in appendix XXXIII, annexures 3, 4]. The motions were adopted.

Mr. Speaker: To this extent the President’s Order is modified.

Now leave is asked for to withdraw amendments Nos. 2 and 3 in List No. 10 and all the other motions that have been moved.

The amendments were, by leave, withdrawn.

Ch. Ranbir Singh: There is a clerical error here, Sir. Mr. Speaker: As I have pointed out, all technical errors and apparent mistakes may be brought to the attention of the Hon. Minister of Law and they will be put through as consequential amendments.

Now, let us go to the U.P. Order.

UTTAR PRADESH ORDER.

Dr. Ambedkar: Sir, the agreed amendments are as follows: List 1—Amendment No. 1 of Pandit Shiv Charan Lai. List 7— Amendment No. 2, parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, of Shri C. D. Pande.

Amendment No, 5 of Shri Sohan Lai and others subject to substitution of “Basti District (Central East)-cum - Gorakhpur District East” for “Basti District (Central East)-cum -Hasanpur Pargana”, in col. 1.

Amendment No. 6, part 2, of Shri Satish Chandra. Amendment No. 9 of Babu Gopinath Singh and Pandit Balkrishna Sharma, subject to the insertion of “I.A.F. Domestic Camp” after “Chakeri Aerodrome” in the entry in col. 2 against Kanpur (East). List 8—Amendment No. 4, parts 1 and 2, of Shri K. C. Sharma. Amendment No. 5 of Shri Beni Singh and others.

Amendment No. 7, parts 1 to 4, of Shri Amolakh Chand. Amendments Nos. 8 and 10 of Shri Beni Singh and others. Amendment No. 12, parts 1 and 2, of Shri K. C. Sharma. Amendment No. 14 of Shri T. N. Singh.

List 9—Amendments Nos. 1, 4, 5 and 6.

Amendments Nos. 2, 7 and 8 subject to the following modifications proposed by me :

That in the motions in List No. 9 (Uttar Pradesh Order) standing in my name the following amendments be made :—

1. That in motion No. 2, at page 3 of the List, against the entry “Allahabad District (East)- cum-Jaunpur District (West)” for the words “(excluding the Municipality and Cantonment of Allahabad” in column III, the words “Chail tehsil (excluding the Municipality) and cantonment of Allahabad” be substituted.

2. That in motion No. 2, at page 3 of the List, after the entry “Allahabad District (West)” the following entry be inserted :— I II III Gorakhpur District (Central).

such of the Patwari circles of Haveli pargana of Pharenda tehsil of Gorakhpur District as are specified in item (94)

of the Appendix.

such of the Patwari circle and forest areas of Haveli Pargana of Pharenda tahsil of Gorakhpur district as are specified in item (94)

of the Appendix.

3. That in motion No. 8, at page 12 of the List, for items Nos. (38) and (39) of the proposed Appendix, the following items be substituted :— “Patwari circles of Akbarpur Tehsil (38)

Singhpur Saholi, Nevada Deorani, Jaitpur Sheoli, Hiraman Sheoli, Dhakan Sheoli, Saraiyan, Baridaryao, Baghpur, Sobhan, Baghwat, Nehuta, Rastpur, Kakar, Dahi, Bairisawai, Marag, Rampur, Sheoli, Kandri, Bhewan, Nunari Bahadurpur, Baragaon, Baranpur Kahinjari, Kashipur Deepchand, Kashipur Hiraman, Kashipur Jagamman Shah, Kashipur Bhurshah, Hatika, Manda, Kekarmau, Naubasta, Bhaupur, Pitrapur, Ant, Raipalpur, Baluwapur, Lalpur and Aliapur. Patwari circles of Derapur Tehsil (39)

Nandpur, Sargaon Khurd, Mungisapur, Derapur Khas, Salimpur, Sabdalpur, Kurhawal, Maujpur, Agwasi, Ursan, Padnai, Korawa, Amauli Kurmian, Hathuma, Mukbilpur, Daryapur, Netarah, Garhiya Sikandra, Mohammadpur : Sultanpur, Jagannathpur, Sandalpur, Haswan, Jamaura, Revan, Hawaspur, Ankna, Pendarathu, Sahnipur, Chamrawa, Kasolar, Achhrauli, Dharampur, Indrukh, Sargaon Buzurg, Jignis, Galuwapur and Baragaon Bhikhi.”

4. That in motion No. 2, at page 1 of the List, the entries relating to “Almora District (West)-cum -Garhwal District (East) ” be deleted.

5. That in motion No. 2, At page 2, the following be deleted. (i) The entries relating to “Kanpur District (North)-cumFarrukhabad District (South-East)- cum -Tehsil Etawah District (East)” to the two places where they occur. (ii) The entries relating to “Etawah District (West)”. (iii) The entries relating to “Kanpur District (South)”

6. That in motion No. 7, at page 6 of the List, the entries relating to “Kanpur City (South)”, “Kanpur (Central)”, “Ghatampur (West)-cum-Bhognipur (East) “and “Bhognipur (South-East)-cumAkbarpur (South) “be deleted.

7. That in motion No. 8, in the Appendix, item No. 17-A relating to Patwari circles of Meerut. Pargana be omitted. I withdraw amendment No. 3 in List No. 9.

Amendment No. 3 in List No. 9 was, by leave, withdrawn. Mr. Speaker: So I am taking all of them together. Do the hon. Members wish to take any one of them independently ? If that is so I have no objecrion.

Pandit Kunzru (Uttar Pradesh): I want to know what is the principle on which all these amendments have been accepted. I find that one of the amendments has been tabled by a member of the Committee, Shri T. N. Singh. I would, in particular like to know what that amendment is. Dr. Ambedkar: Those amendments on which there was general agreement were accepted. In regard to the particular amendment referred to by the hon. Member it is No. 14 in list No. 8.

Pandit Kunzru : My Hon. friend Dr. Ambedkar says that those amendments have been accepted about which there was general agreement. I do not know what he means by “general agreement”. If he meant among the members of the majority party, obviously there could have been agreement on many other points. If that was the only basis on which the modifications

were to be made, there was no need for the appointment of a Delimitation Advisory Committee. But I should like to know whether apart from the fact that there was agreement on those points, there was any other reason for their acceptance. Dr. Ambedkar: Well, I think the Hon. House knows that we have been proceeding upon the basis of the decision of Members of the various Committees which were appointed by the Speaker to delimit the constituencies and whenever the Members have agreed to make a change, I have thought it fit to accept that change. No. 14 which I am accepting is one such amendment.

Pandit Kunzru: Does he mean Members of the majority party or does he mean the Members of the Committee appointed by the Speaker ?

Dr. Ambedkar : With regard to that, I should like to point out that so far as delimitation is concerned, no distinction has been observed between Members of the majority party and Members of any other party. All Members have been invited to place their views before this Cabinet Sub-Committee which was appointed to examine this matter. Any Member, irrespective of the party to which he belonged, had the freedom to come and plead his cause. Some Members did come. Shri T. N. Singh (Uttar Pradesh): Sir, as my name has been brought in I would ask your permission to say a few words. It is only this that the amendment to which my hon. friend referred is only a consequential amendment which should have been made and which by error was not made in the report of the Committee. I can explain the details personally to him, as it is not possible to explain it here. Mr. Speaker: Does any other Member wish to take up his motion independently?

* Dr. Ambedkar: Sir, I hope this matter was discussed in the committee and I told Mr. Kapoor that his amendment was incomplete and therefore could not be accepted without

* P.D., Vol. 12, Part II, 9th June 1951, p. 10607.

causing disturbance to other constituencies. He was not able to give a complete scheme where the thing would be fitted in with the rest. That is the reason why this amendment was not considered.

Shri J. R. Kapoor: rose— Mr. Speaker: The hon. Member has no right of reply. Dies he wish me to put these to the House now ? Shri J R. Kapoor: Of course, though it may be rejected. Mr. Speaker: I shall place them before the House. Shri J. R. Kapoor: No. Sir, I would like to withdraw them.

The amendments of Shri J. R. Kapoor were, by leave, withdrawn.

Mr. Speaker: I will now put all the agreed amendments which the Law Minister has placed.

All amendments were adopted.

* Mr. Speaker: Has the Hon. Member, as also the other hon. Members who have moved amendments, the leave of the House to withdraw their amendments ? The amendments were, by leave, withdrawn. Mr. Speaker: That disposes of all the motions. Now I shall take up consequential amendments.

Dr. Ambedkar: I beg to move:

“ That with reference to the amendments to the Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies Orders moved and accepted by the House necessary consequential, drafting and other formal changes be carried out in the said Orders under the authority of the Honourable the Speaker.” Dr. Deshmukh: I have given notice of a similar amendment. I beg to withdraw it.

Mr. Speaker: It has not been placed before the House. So there is no need to withdraw it.

*P.D., Vol. 12, Part II, 9th June 1951, pp. 10610-12.

Shri Chattopadhyay: I have an amendment to this amendment. I beg to move:

In the Consequential Amendment standing in the name of Dr. Ambedkar, after the words “formal changes”, insert the words “including nomenclature of Constituencies”.

Mr, Speaker: Does the Hon. Minister accept it ? Dr. Ambedkar: I cannot accept it in this formal and binding character.

The Prime Minister (Shri Jawaharlal Nehru): I take it, Sir, that if a name is wrongly spelt it will be correctly spelt. That does not need a formal amendment. If there are minor errors I take it that they can always be corrected. Shri Chattopadhyay: There was good deal of discussion this morning over this and there was some difference of opinion too in this matter and Dr. Ambedkar said “Let this matter of nomenclature be left to the Speaker ”.

Dr. Ambedkar: I admit. But I said if the Speaker thought that the change in nomenclature of a place is a formal change; then it will be covered by my amendment.

Shri Chattopadhyay: It is for this reason that I have tabled this amendment.

Mr. Speaker: What does he want me to do now ? Shri Chattopadhyay: I would like that after the words “formal changes” the words “including nomenclature of Constituencies” should be inserted. It is not formal. It is in my opinion very substantial, because in some cases……… Mr. Speaker: I understand his point. If he urges that it is a substantial thing, no amendment can now be made. If it is a formal or consequential amendment which will include also sometimes, as Dr. Ambedkar said, even a change in nomenclature, then matters will stand differently. Therefore it is no use having this amendment.

Shri J. R. Kapoor: Do we take it that the change of the name of a constituency, if it does not materially or even slightly change the extent of the constituency, is covered by Dr. Ambedkar’s motion?

Dr. Ambedkar: It is in the discretion of the Speaker. Mr. Speaker: The House has accepted certain modifications. The House is going to give powers to the Speaker to make amendments of a consequential or formal character because, as was said, I believe, in the morning, there may be a misdescription of a boundary. Instead of “east” it might have been stated as “west”. Only such amendments will be put through. There can be no further amendments now. Even by the unanimous decision of the House the Chair cannot go beyond the decisions of the House. The Chair will do only what is absolutely necessary to give effect to the decisions already arrived at by the House. That is the spirit in which the consequential amendments will take place. zz

*PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE DELIMITATION OF PARLIAMENTARY AND ASSEMBLY CONSTITUENCIES ORDERS

The Minister of Law (Dr. Ambedkar): I beg to lay on the Table the following Orders made by the President on the 15th May, 1951, under sub-section(3) of section 13 of the Representation of the People Act, 1950: (1) The Delimitation of parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Assam) Order, 1951.

(2) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Bihar) Order, 1951.

(3) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Orissa) Order, 1951. (4) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (West Bengal) Order, 1951. (5) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Hyderabad) Order, 1951. (6) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Madhya Bharat) Order, 1951. (7) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Patiala and East Punjab States Union) Order, 1951.

(8) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Rajasthan) Order, 1951. (9) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Saurashtra) Order, 1951. (10) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Travancore-Cochin) Order, 1951. (11) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Part C States) Order, 1951. [Placed in Library. See No. P-169/51 ].

*P.D., Vol. 12, Part II, 16th May 1951, pp. 8810-11.

* PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly constituencies Orders The Minister of Law (Dr. Ambedkar): Under sub-section (3) of section 13 of the Representation of the People Act, 1950. I beg to lay on the Table the following Orders made by the President on the 18th May, 1951;

(1) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Bombay) Order, 1951.

(2) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Madhya Pradesh) Order, 1951.

(3) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Madras) Order, 1951.

(4) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Madras) Order,1951.

(5) The Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Uttar Pradesh) Order, 1951.

(6) Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies (Mysore) Order, 1951 .

[Placed in Library, See No. p. 169/51].

Mr. Speaker: That exhausts all the Orders. I believe? Dr. Ambedkar: Yes.

Mr. Speaker: I have to inform hon. Members that copies of certain Orders made by the President regarding Delimitation of Constituencies, which have just now been laid on the Table, will be placed in the parliamentary Notice Office as soon as they are received from the Press, hon. Members may obtain a copy each of these Orders on request.

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* P.D., Vol. 12, Part II, 18th May 1951, pp. 9065-66.

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

*Mr. Speaker: I will see what is possible in this direction. I do not promise anything.

The House may adjourn now……… Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava (Punjab): It will be very difficult to finish the Bill by 1 o’clock. If the work is not finished by 11 o’clock. I have never seen a Bill being guillotined.

Mr. Speaker: If there is no agreement. If there is agreement certainly, we can finish.

Pandit Thakur Das Bhargava: I would therefore beg of you to give more time to come to an agreement. Mr. Speaker: If the hon. Members are so agreed that they will finish the whole Bill by 1 o’clock, they may assemble at five minutes to one and finish. I do not mind. The only point is there must be some time limit. We must sit with an effort to finish. Otherwise, the discussions will be unending.

The Minister of law (Dr. Ambedkar): I do not know what the arrangement is.

Mr. Speaker: We are now adjourning and meeting again at 11-30.

Dr. Ambedkar: My view is this. That may not prove to be an easier solution. Therefore, the suggestion that I was making was this. I should be prepared to get on with some of the clauses about which there is no dispute at all. There is one clause, only one I think about which there is not yet any agreement. I am afraid it will take a pretty long time to reach an agreement. I thought the better course would be to proceed with the clauses about which there was no dispute at all. There, we shall see whether after a short adjournment, we are able to reach an agreement or whether we would require postponement of the consideration of that particular clause to some other date.

* P.D., Vol. 12, Part II, 28th May 1951, pp. 9476-77.

Mr. Speaker: Anyway, there is a strong desire in the House to adjourn now to have informal discussions. I have accepted that position. It has not yet been declared as a decision from the Chair, but it has been unnounced from the Chair. Dr. Ambedkar: I would press on the House to reconsider the matter.

Mr. Speaker: Let us not now take it.

Dr. Ambedkar: There are some clauses which can just be gone through without any speech.

Mr. Speaker: In respect of them too. If the clauses can be gone through immediately, there is no special point in not adjourning now. When we meet at 11-30 those clauses may be put through.

The House will now adjourn and reassemble at 11-30. The House then adjourned till Half Past Eleven of the Clock.

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